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I can't comment on HB or AG, but yes, the species Dawn Redwood is extremely fast. This one planted in 2016 from a root bound 6' tree, which meant hacking much of the root system. Still, 10 years later...shovel in foreground for scale.


@lisaam, I agree that tho my dawn redwood is handsome, my baldcypresses are even more appealing -- finer, fernier texture and more elegant form. Both color very well in the fall.

My favorite time of year and weather, pork chop.

I have a microwave shelf below the counter.

@thinkdesignlive: That's a great idea, but I would recommend a beautiful wide sideboard rather than a continuation of cabinets--just to add more elegance to the dining end.

Lots to chew on. Thanks to everyone for their advice - much appreciated.

I would say no

No.

I once lovingly tended an indoor lime grown from a supermarket seed for almost a decade before I realized it was never going to grow fruit, then I turned a cold shoulder on it, and intentionally left the tree outdoors that autumn. I don't really expect this peach to be worth growing---and I wasn't going to allow it life because it grew in my most prime garden real estate. I am very limited with sun, and this tree is in the center of my little patch. I heard it could bear fruit its third year, so I was going to leave it be until then.
However, I get attached to useless things (see Klem), and now I"m afraid I'm not going to be able to chop this tree down next spring as planned. Allowed to stay, I can pretty much say goodbye to growing the vegetables I care most about.

Wow that Florida King is really something, and the Houston put on a lot of growth, too. You must be quite pleased. I have four peach varieties (none are the varieties you have), and I have noticed that the Baby Crawford just doesn't have the vigor of any of the other three I have. I don't know whether it wasn't a good specimen to begin wtih or it's not a particularly robust grower, but it just can't compare to the other varieties. So yea sometimes that happens.
Do you have deer? If you do, you better get deer protection up around those trunks ASAP, as in yesterday.

My outdoor patio grills and cooker work for when the power is out. I DO NOT EVER want gas in the house.
They had gas installed the day before….

Power goes out = portable butane camping burner inside or propane grill outside. Problem solved.

What's wrong with them now? They look to be in good shape, from what you show. I'd start with switching out the door hardware and the pendants and see if that is enough of a change for you. Why did you change out the flooring in the kitchen? In the one pic I can see what looks to be a darker wood or wood-look LVP. Not sure I like the old and the new next to one another. Is that flooring staying as-is?

What were the floors? The pics above are a great testament to why one should not paint cabinets. The painted looks so flat and fake. All the richness gone. I would look for new counters and leave the cabinetry alone.

I like the green that Emily has selected in her rendition but will suggest that you also paint the island the same color as the rest of the cabinetry. That will help eliminate the difference between cabinetry and flooring altogether.

I'm going to highlight a potted annual. These are "Fireball" marigolds, purchased a little over a month ago as a fall replacement replacement.


Not much left blooming here…. Expecting more pockets of frost tonight so I scrounged around to make a bouquet from my last few gladiolas, some feverfew, and wild asters.

Only blooms on my Crepe Myrtles here.

Update: Well, I'm back after with a report after a couple of years. That ugly duckling is growing into a beautiful swan.
Here she is in early October, 4 years after planting (and 2 years after me complaining about how awkward she looked).


Stunning!

Are you asking about interior or exterior? If exterior, leave it be, it looks very nice stained. I don't see any interior pics of the door so who knows but if it's the stained the same color as the exterior my instinct is to leave it stained on the interior, too, it will tie in your other wood elements and what looks to be a wood-trimmed patio door.

Wood is not the enemy of modern design and the wood elements in your home should be used to add warmth.

To make the home feel more modern I would:
replace the mini blinds with up down cellular shades,
update lighting fixtures
replace any furniture that is ornate or heavy - keeping lines clean, airy and open
Replace the tile countertops in the kitchen (Possibly replace cabinets if they are in poor condition or I needed to do layout changes). (I would not get gray cabinets - gray is a trend that has come to an end - gray cabinets will date your home)
Paint the walls with a warmer white - see photos on my last post - not gray white or blue white, all have some warmth.
Paint the bedroom with a more subdued, desaturated color if you want color.
Replace small pieces of art or groupings with large bold pieces of art.
Replace lamps and decor - keeping things minimal and clean, modern lines.
Think about continuing the flooring into the bedroom
Think about refacing the fireplace.

I used to volunteer with cooking and food budgeting classes at a local food bank, and I can attest to the fact that a great many clients we served did not know how to cook. These were basic life skills we were educating on here -- I kid you not, grown adults with no clue about knife skills and basic (and I mean basic) food preperation skills or how to read a shelf tag at the grocery to compare prices. These were not high-schoolers, here -- these were grown men and women. It kinda shocked me at first but then I just came to expect it. I will say, they were all happy to be able to participate, learn something and be more self-sufficient, and they enjoyed themselves while learning.
I don't know anything about the story originally posted about, just wanted to chime in with an anectdote about what I've personally experienced, the point here being never assume everyone else knows what you know nor that everyone possesses basic life skills -- sadly, a lot of people don't.

We probably don't know the full story. Yes, the landlord should have provided a working stove and if it proved non-functional, then he should have installed a new one. That being said, did she withhold rent because of the oven? If so, he had every right to start eviction. I also think her comments of spending thousands of dollars on Uber Eats seems odd. Makes no sense.

I find it all very sad, whatever the reason.

Wouldn't it be less grief to just buy two more homes in the same neighborhood?

General contractor here. Sigrid is right about the structural engineer, and here's the build-side checklist for the garage itself:
Slab: Garage slabs are usually thinner than house floors, sloped toward the door, and sit lower than the main floor. Plan on building the floor up with insulation and subfloor to match the house level.
Garage door opening: Filling it in needs real framing and support at the base, not just studs and siding. It's also where the exterior look gets decided, so plan windows or glass there on purpose.
Bathroom: Putting it on the kitchen-side wall is the right call. Plumbing in a slab means saw-cutting it for drain lines, so shorter runs save real money. A slab also makes a zero-entry shower easier to recess than a raised wood floor does, though it means chipping concrete, so budget for it.
Dining-room opening: Confirm whether that wall is load-bearing before you decide where the door goes.
Code: A bedroom needs a code-size egress window or door, smoke/CO alarms, heating and cooling, and energy-code insulation. Some cities also require replacement parking. Call your building department early, since rules vary by city.
Get drawings and the engineer's input first, then design the layout around what the structure allows.

The bedroom door should not have direct access to the Dining, there should at least be a "vestibule/ante room" or short hallway. The garage slab appears to be lower than the house, so a step/ramp, raising the floor elevation, and if there is conflict with the ceiling height and front wall height because of one of those choices, should be planned for.

Some concerns with the above suggestions should be noted: Thujas and evergreen euonymus varieties would likely be susceptible to deer browsing. Boxwood are risky now that boxwood blight and boxwood moth have arrived in Michigan. Japanese holly can suffer damage during severe winters. Not sure what your soil is like, but the soils here are generally higher in pH, making it challenging to grow Kalmia, rhododendrons, and azaleas. And Sarcococcas and Viburnum davidii aren't fully hardy here.
A dwarf Norway spruce might work if it's not too shady. And even though you said you're "not interested in yews", there is a yew relative with deer resistance that might fit your specs - Cephalotaxus harringtonia prostrata (although it may need some winter protection initially).

Well, I ended up buying a threadleaf cypress 'Mops'. I like what I choose, I think it looks nice there, and it should stay short enough at 2-3' height x 3-4' spread. The plant tag said sun to part-shade. It might be a little too shady to keep the bright yellow coloring, but we'll see; even a nice light green shade will be fine if that's what it ends up doing.
Other than euonymous, broadleaf evergreens just don't do well here. IME they tend to do fine for maybe 2-3 years then decline. I was rather disappointed that a kalmia I had died , I just love the flowers but nope -- that too, died the slow, unattractive death, just like all the broadleafs that came before it.

" Almost $400 today alone "
Wow!!

I know crazy right?! Things really slowed down and I thought I might be done for the season but with the cool down, it really brought back the buyers!

That mosaic is considered dated. Just because something is dated doesn't mean you can't like it so the more important factor is if you don't like it then replace it.

Thanks for everyone’s input.

I'm with the "add more color" crowd. There must be SOME color that you like? Whatever it is, add it in the form of stools, dishtowels, ceramic pieces (vase/pitcher), salt and pepper shakers, a colorful caddy to replace the SS one you have, a green plant in a colorful pot, tea kettle, lamp, placemats, rug.
And yes, the glass tiles have gone out of fashion quite a few years ago. If you are going to replace them, choose a real COLOR!

No clue whether they're in or out of style. Doesn't matter to me -- I don't like hanging light fixtures, so I have recessed.

Recessed can be varied with different bulb output patterns. Narrow spot, spot, wide spot flood at different intensities and controlled with a dimmer. Choice positioning to allow you to work with sharp knives without shadowing from your hands and body. That's the goal for the work zones usually counters. If you don't have upper cabinet doors pendants over your counters could work and be a decorative design element.

Guess I am the opposite. I don't care for recessed lights. I have some in my home but not in my kitchen.
I look at pendants over the island as task lighting. That is where we do our meal prep and prefer the light to be down where it is needed.
If you don't like pendants then get recessed. There is no right or wrong with this.

You need to take the roof into consideration -- the roof and the siding and trim need to work together as a cohesive whole.
My advice would be to replace teh roof first. Looking at teh photo, it looks like it's time. Might be a simple re-shingle job, but that's something you'd have to look in to.
If you replace the roof, choose a general color direction and go from there -- endless possibilities. But remember -- it all needs to work together as a whole.

The roof is being replaced black/dark grey

My cedar-shingled house is over 100 years old. Many of the shingles are original. When we got it painted, the painter replaced the shingles that needed replacing. That's probably cheaper than residing the whole thing. I'd look pretty hard at your shingles and see if they really do need replacing.

Put into your kitchen what you love and what will work well. To heck with what's "in".

“Too dramatic” is in the eye of the beholder, and also depends on the style of the home.
I don’t worry about trends (although I’m probably influenced by them because of what I see regularly.) You’re likely/hopefully going to have this stone for a long time, so I’d be more concerned about durability. Taj is well known for being durable and some other light quartzites have had issues with staining from water and sealants. So whichever you choose, be sure to test first. And ask your fabricator how he/she prevents staining.

Quartz OR quartzite?
quartz = manmade
quartzite= natural stone

^^ and I bet he's a lawyer, isn't he :0p

it shouldn't be any different than any other thing we pay for. I've had custom jewelry made, and the price I paid is the price I paid. I didn't ask specifically how much it cost to buy the stone rough and how much time it took to cut it so I could figure out what the actual "mark up" was per hour. Or message Lands End to find out how much they actually paid for the pants I ordered so I could see if they're hosing me on the price.
I would think wherever you're getting the slab, they should be able to explain to you reasoning as far as cost, it's a rare OOAK thing, or it's a bit on the fussy side so it takes more for installation etc.

No swipes intended porkchop.
We only wish the best for ya. :-)
I was commenting on bengs comment about war.
No body wants it but sometimes you gotta do what you gotta do. ;-)
Good for you, that you got things under control!
That fence in the first picture would probably be enough to dissuade cattle but better too much than not enough imo.
I'm still a little skeptical about black tree tubes, I've never tried them after warnings I received on this site about the dangers of using them, although being in a different climate, you might have a totally different experience where you are. Not sure if you ever had winter sun scald or where the person lives that advised us of that.
I think it has something to do with locations where the ground freezes and sun exposure but I don't know what the formula is to determine which trees are susceptible and which ones are not. I just put them on in the Fall and take them off in the Spring after it warms up. 🤷♂️

And I was going to say that Perforated tubing would make a big difference. So it sounds like you're good to go.
I do run into times when my unvented tubes get a little small for the trees so in that case, the white plastic would be a better idea imo.
And just for an aside, I've used vented 'Tree Savers' that are made to protect the tree from weed whippers and lawn mowers. They're vented and work well in combination with tree tubes that aren't vented.
Heat naturally rises thus causing a circulation of air inside the tube (this tree doesn't need sun protection anymore but I just put this on for an example). :-)


You think you can have this with 4000k led? Nope........
It may be too cozy for you, but this is where I may never leave unless dragged out. AI or not, put me here, send in snow, rain......sleet.......





To me lighting is deeply personal, and trying to force one "sweet spot" number like 3500K or 4000K in every room of every home misses the mark.
Mother Nature doesn't give us one flat light all day. She gives us bright, crisp, white sunlight during our peak productive hours, and then rolls out that soft, warm, amber glow in the early morning and evening when our brains need to wake up or wind down. Why shouldn't our homes do the same? When you’re trying to figure out what works, it really comes down to a few big things:
- How you want your home/room to feel: Do you need to feel energized and focused, or do you want to instantly drop your shoulders and relax after a long stressful workday?
- Your decor and furniture style: The era of your home makes a huge difference. If you have a 100 year old home filled with rustic antiques, a harsh white light is going to make the space feel sterile and cold instead of rich and inviting. On the flip side, if you have an ultra-modern, minimalist look softer, more yellow lighting can feel heavy and drab.
- The colors you love: Light changes color completely! If you love shades of dusty purple or deep wine reds, a yellow bulb is going to turn those gorgeous tones completely muddy and dingy. But if you lean toward cozy fall colors, a super bright white light can make them look garish and way too vivid.
Another huge trap people fall into is confusing the amount of light with the color of the light (lumens vs. Kelvins). A lot of times, people buy a cold, bright-white bulb because they just want to be able to see better in a dark room. But then they end up with a space that feels like a sterile hospital wing! If you need a room to be brighter so you aren't squinting, you don't need a whiter bulb—you just need more lumens (the actual volume of light). You can absolutely have a space that is beautifully lit and easy to see in, while keeping the color temperature in that cozy, warm yellow range.
Personally, I say throw out the rulebook and mix it up! In my own bedroom, I have bright white lighting in the areas where I'm getting dressed so I can actually tell my navy from my black. But by the bedside? It’s strictly soft, warm yellow lighting. When I'm unwinding with a book before sleep, the last thing I want is to feel like I'm sitting under a pharmacy fluorescent.

That has GOT to go!

100 percent remove

I’d remove in a heartbeat…will be less dated, but more importantly feel more spacious. Consider adding pot lights, as well as pendants over the island (both on dimmers).

DH was transferred to USA from Canada. As CEO of this small co. he quickly realized, the company’s health coversge was sorely inadequate. Hence,leaving employees with considerable medical debt, when accessig medical services. Many staff, would not access medical care, due to high co-pays and deductibles. He made the decision, to provide better coverage, which of course, impacted profits. Humanity vs $$$/profit. In the end, taking care of people, even though expensive, was just Common Sense!

I can't access either.

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Thanks, Floral--this one's even better!

If you want a mirror, that first mock-up Design Interior South did with the green paint and A&C mirror is simply gorgeous.

@ Susan Rayne Rule #1: never break up a set.
Who is making the rules?
I agree with others that the hutch portion is making the space too heavy. I am not a big fan of mirrors, prefer art, but that is a personal preference - not a rule.
I would add some lighting to the space - like the sconces, but might consider a painting and lighting from above that highlights the art.
Got ChatGPT to create an image with art and lighting - not the art I would have chosen, but good enough for getting an idea of what it would/could look like


Thanks for the visual Jennifer. I have original paintings of mine all over the house - already 3 large (36"x48") in this dining/living room area so I think I will keep it more simple - unless I start changing everything, lol. The lighting is something to consider. I certainly like how it highlights the art .

I would look for a fabric that has just a touch of green in the pattern/colorway, to tie it into whatever green you choose for the walls.

The darker green, but with a different color ceiling.

Oh no that's a pretty big wound. I hope it recovers with no lasting damage other than cosmetic.
"And yes, using a white tree wrap or tube on the lower trunk generally prevents this from happening."
Do you mean white tube or just any old color tube? I use black corrugated drainage pipe around many of my tree trunks as deer protection.

'Do you mean white tube or just any old color tube? I use black corrugated drainage pipe around many of my tree trunks as deer protection.'
The tubes I'm refering to, are used to protect trees that are susceptible to winter 'Sun Scald'.
White is recommended because it reflects the suns rays away and remains cool so it doesn't affect the temperature of the trees inside the tube.
Black absorbs energy from the suns rays and can get quite hot, at times, during the winter, causing the trees bark to heat up. Exactly what you don't want.
And don't put your tubes on too early, wait until the weather cools in the Fall because if the heat and humidity inside the tubes is too high, it can encourage bugs and molds that can cause problems.
If you are protecting trees, only from deer rubs, there are numerous articles on this forum describing how to do that.

Is your second picture (with the front door in view), the alcove you're talking about. If so, I wouldn't paint the alcove green, it's just going to be choppy. I'd pull in some green with artwork on that blank wall instead.

Maybe this from PB?


Okay, I’ve painted the bench Porch Swing and painted the alcove Swiss Coffee.
I ordered a new wooden coat hook, but I’m wondering if this removable wallpaper would work on the alcove wall. I really want a built in look, and I can’t easily achieve it with my existing bench and radiators on both walls.


I'd go with the regular stainless over teh black stainless.

Interesting, and quite amusing that you’d hired related cabinet makers for different projects, without knowing! Neither of them will know you’ve inquired about the dw panel, unless you tell them. 🤔
I’m curious…why did you remove the panel from the SZ fridge and change to stainless? My SZ is paneled, and much prefer how it blends in with my cabs, and doesn’t show fingerprints. You could’ve had a new panel made to match the custom cabs.


I returned to the appliance store this morning and ordered the Bosch 800 d/w in finger-print resistant SS with the pocket door (recessed door). The price was slightly lower than last week, and the salesman offered me some perks -- such as free delivery and installation.
I decided on the pocket door to avoid the temptation of hanging a towel on a bar handle. I think wet towels hanging against the SS front panel may be the culprit for my having to continuously clean rust-like smudges off the door.
Neither cabinet guy showed up to give me a quote for a wood panel. After I read the installation instructions for a custom panel, I realized that it would likely cost me an extra $400 for the wood panel plus $100 for a SS handle. And the custom panel work would be "out of sync" in terms of replacing other kitchen appliances in the future.
@darbuka,
I do not remember why I switched from paneled to SS on the SZ doors, but I admit that I like the SS better, and the doors are easier to open. My 2015 team (GC, cabinet-builder, and designer) all encouraged me to make the switch to SS on the SZ.

"I don't think it will be a great year for Fall colors."
I hope you're wrong about that, it's always disappointing when things go out with a fizzle rather than fireworks.
We're not showing much color here yet in SE MI. It'll probably be a couple more weeks before the main event.

On my pc, I can hit the 'End' button to jump to the bottom or the 'Home' button to go back to the top.

' Is it time for someone to start a fall 2026 weather thread? '
I'll pass on that. Not much to post about in the fall here.
34d last night and the roof tops are white.
I'm hoping for some Fall colors but that isn't looking so good either.

Yes. Fall is a great time to plant/transplant. Even up here in MI, it's still prime time. Sedum are super-tough plants, to boot. You shouldn't have any trouble.

It is very hard to kill them in any season.

Lucky you! Have fun!!

Enjoy!!

Bon voyage!!
Can't wait to see some photos.

I've had sump pumps in all the houses I've owned. They are very common here. I used to be able to hear the sump at this house, ithe piping not well secured so it kinda rattled, and it was a cheapie loud one. That got taken care of when I had my water system redone -- I don't hear it now unless I'm down there and it goes off. Moral of the story: Cough up the cash for a good one and have it done well. And get a battery back-up on it.

There has been a lot of talk of sump pumps around here lately; with the N'oreaster we had and huge swells here along the coast. No issues for us, but a neighbor lost power, and they had a luncheon planned that day. At the time, it wasn't even raining and the air was mild. Of course no power also means no water so we told them to move the lunch next door to us. And they moved in too, for 2 nights. We have a generator so no issues, and we never seem to get water in the basement as we are high up.

I have an 1860 house and a dirt-floor dungeon with a trench and a sump pump. I sometimes notice the sound when it turns on, and a few times I've noticed it when the float got stuck and the pump didn't turn off. But all in all it's not an annoying noise. If anything, it's reassurig.

I've seen it planted but all young trees. They seem to have a good growth rate though! -but the variegation is always very obvious, and for variegation lovers they would probably say amazing so I wonder if yours is true to the tag?
Do you see anything when you look at the leaves close up? I don't think the variegation fades toward the end of summer so maybe the leaves are a little beat up from their nursery time and that's why it's not obvious, but even if that's not the case you can't go wrong with a regular tulip tree if you have the space.

Here's a close-up of one of the leaves. I can see what looks to be like faint variegation but honestly it just looks green unless you're right on top of it trying to see it. I guess I'll have to wait and see what it looks like next spring. As long as it's healthy all will be well, like I said I didn't even realize I bought a variegated tree.


"Do you know which of the ingredients is likely to cause liver toxicity?"
I showed my doc the label a while back, he said the Aswagandha can cause liver enzyme elevation. I would also think the high beta-carotene might be of concern, but he didn't cite that specifically.

I'm using the eyedropper now as it's easier for travel, but normally I use the mousse. Doesn't really matter. I apply it nightly to the top of my head as that's where my primary hair loss was. I have a pixie cut so yes, short. I also have to wash my hair in the morning as the rogaine makes it stiffer and dull.

My daughter used this briefly last year and had bad gastric side effects, so she stopped, and they went away.

No fabric softener or dryer sheets for me. I've never used fabric softener. I used to use unscented dryer sheets, but Miele heat pump dryer instructions say never to use dryer sheets so when I got the Miele I ditched the sheets. No need for them -- I don't get static at all with the Miele dryer.

@jaxo, I disassembled a couple dryers recently for clean-up and a bit of repair and have an observation on dryer sheets. Both the same brand/model (Fisher & Paykel topload dryer). One I bought new in 2004, had been used by my mother (machine A) for several years until my sister moved in w/mom and brought her machines. The other (machine B) I bought used in 2018 (it was disassembled and cleaned up at that time) and have been using it since loaning the other to mom.
The observation is that machine B was/is impressively clean. Zero lint/residue on the blower wheel and exhaust path. A bit of lint accumulation, as expected, in the filter area, but easily cleared.
Machine A had a sticky residue throughout the airflow path and notably more lint accumulation, that called for complete disassembly and washing all the parts.
Mom uses dryer sheets.
I don't.

Great question, and the fact that you already have a cleaning routine puts you ahead of most people! The buildup concern is real: liquid softener leaves a waxy coating that can clog the dispenser drawer and coat the dryer's moisture sensor bars, which is exactly why loads start taking longer to dry over time.
A couple of things that have worked well in my experience: run the tub clean cycle with hot water monthly rather than waiting for the reminder light, and wipe the dryer's sensor bars (the two metal strips inside the drum) with a little rubbing alcohol every few months — that one trick fixed my dryer running forever on sensor dry. If you like the softness, try halving the softener dose or swapping it for plain white vinegar in the rinse cycle; you still get soft towels without the gunk. With your maintenance habits, those machines should stay happy for years!

I don't decorate for the seasons. It looks nice, sure, but I don't want to be bothered with taking it all down.

Celery, nice!!

That's a very elegant table display, Celery. I like it a lot.

They look nice.
"...am aware become BIG husky things!"
Yes, they do. I took out all but two clumps of grasses I had for just this reason. Maybe if they were out on the property somewhere, but they became just too much...grass...up by the house.

@gardenho_z5, @cyn427 (z. 7, N. VA) re seeing @FrozeBudd_z3/4 property....I can only refer you to this thread having pics I took 10 years ago when I visited his property in the summer of 2016. I will say it again i.e. I am a regular on mutliple garden tours each season and w/o doubt 'Froze's' garden are the most amazing I have ever seen. They are stunning. I am not one to smile much but I recall I was like a kid in a candy store the day I was over. I gotta find a way to visit again...hint, hint.
https://www.houzz.com/discussions/4056063/visited-a-gw-member#18081644
'Froze', given my pics are now a decade old, how much different would the pictures show today?

Oh my Goodness FB 🤣 Never did I imagine you’d come up with that good of excuses!! No but seriously, I do recall you mentioning excessive rain but didn’t realize it was that bad. So sorry to hear. I can understand as I had just the opposite here. It really stinks when Mother Nature decides to be ‘witchy‘ and ruin our pleasure of gardening. She sure has been that way alot over the years. I think last year was the best season in quite some time. Of course I’m sad not to see your gardens, and can only hope next season will be a glorious one!!
Rouge I have a feeling his beautiful gardens have changed alot. I know he mentioned adding alot more evergreens and shrubs, plus dividing a Gazillion perennials. Is my memory correct FB?
And hey, thanks for the good laugh and we’ll patiently wait until next year to salivate 😊

"heh heh, you didn't screw up, you just changed your mind."
I like how you think! :0)
"...gave up having any confidence in a ten or twenty year plan, I just plant to the best of my ability and keep a saw handy. Life's too short to plant an oak and keep the space around it clear for decades until it finally fills in."
I never heard anyone say that before about trees, and I get it. I am this way with perennials -- I buy them big to begin with if I can, I have no patience or desire to wait for them to beef up, I want something to fill in and look at now, I'll just dig them later when I have to.

I agree, porkchop - I like the way kato thinks!
Although the saw part.... hmm I'm not sure about that. If I could remove or cut down things as easily as you, kato, my life would be so much easier lol. All those potted shrubs and trees would have been in the ground long ago and I wouldn't be such a worry-wart!
I think it's the part about "quick decisions" that has me wavering lol..... I can barely make slow ones!
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No but this thread is.
What is a OYGN and what is a mair? Spell checker is useful!
@Annie Deighnaugh Bravissima! Well stated Annie!